It appears we have a runaway inflation problem in the Exp trading market. People unironically ask for ridiculous amounts of Exp in exchange for certain pokemon and then actually receive it.
I believe this mainly comes from there being too much exp in the 'system'. More exp gets added every day, but very little gets removed. The only time exp gets removed is when inactive accounts get deleted or when someone gets banned. And people who have a lot of exp usually give them away to their friends before quitting, so even less gets removed. This has resulted in people who are extremely 'exp rich' and can afford those ridiculous prices. That pushes the price up for everyone.
The exp reward from battles hasn't changed in a long time. The time it takes to train one million exp stays the same while prices of pokemon with three stats keeps going up, even though more such pokemon are caught every day.
I believe high exp pokemon losing some exp each time they are traded will help against this issue. I have not decided on the percentages yet, but the percentages will vary depending on the exp of the pokemon.
I will update this thread once I have decided on the numbers.
Questions You May Have:
- What are the Tax percentages?
[See Updated Post Below] - Will the Tax apply to all pokemon?
Nope. Just pokemon that have been 'exp trained'. I'll update this post with the critera at a later time. This is unlikely to apply to pokemon with less than one million exp.
To clarify, this only happens when you trade the said pokemon. Nothing happens to the pokemon that are just sitting in your account. - Will this affect QuickTrade?
Yes. - Will this affect WonderTrade?
Probably not. But if people find a way to somehow abuse it, then sure. - Will only the person making the offer be taxed?
Both the person offering and accepting will be taxed.
The tax is only applied when the trade happens, and not when an offer is made. - Will all pokemon have the same percentage tax?
No. a 25mil exp pokemon will lose more in terms of percentage and exp compared to a pokemon with 5mil exp.
[See Updated Post Below] - I'm not sure I understand how this tax works.
If the tax percentage is set to 20% for pokemon with 25mil exp, and someone trades you two pokemon with 25mil, you will receive both the pokemon but with 20mil exp each (25-5) - Will this apply if I am trading between my own accounts?
Yes. You're meant to train exp on your main account anyway. If you have already stored exp on your secondary account for trading, they'll be taxed the same regardless of which account you trade from. If you want to store exp on a secondary account for vanity purposes, you'll just have to account for the loss into your plan. - When will this be added?
[See Updated Post Below] - Can I trade without this tax until then?
Absolutely. If you have exp sitting in various accounts, this may be a good time to re-organize as you see fit. You have at least three weeks to sort this out. - Does this mean I could get away with trading 100 pokemon with 999,999exp each?
I would like to add some sort of 'total exp' criteria too. I will update the post once it's decided.
[See Updated Post Below] - What if I split the trades?
You'd be reporting yourself if you report someone for scamming you when trying this. - This will ruin my exact exp!
I'm sure people can create a forum guide with the exp calculator solution for each existing exact exp pokemon, to get it back to some exact exp after the trade.
But, yes, people asking for exact exp may go down since the person receiving will have to do the work.
[See Updated Post Below]
If you have questions, reply below and I'll try to respond.
EDIT (December 12):
Those of you that are on discord can now use the /taxcalc command to calculate the tax using preliminary numbers.
The calculations are based on following slabs: 30% at 30mil, 20% at 20mil, 10% at 10mil and 5% at 5mil
Following are examples of the command's response
EDIT (December 13):- Tax Calculated on 100,000,000 is 24,250,000
- Tax Calculated on 25,000,000 is 2,250,000
- Tax Calculated on 10,000,000 is 250,000
- Tax Calculated on 5,000,000 is 0
It appears about 1.5% accounts including all the secondary accounts have pokemon at 5mil and over.
And about 0.6% have 10mil and over. I am considering skipping the slab at 5mil altogether.
Which would mean only pokemon over 10mil with have the progressive tax applied. With how little tax a pokemon near 10mil with accrue, Less than 0.5% of the accounts should be affected by this tax. Even less if people sprinkling their exp among multiple secondary accounts.
EDIT on Locked Thread.
Turns out I'm terrible at explaining the basic concept of tax in an economy to users. Maintaining a debate thread seems useless at this point.
I've deleted the posts and an archive can be found at the following links - Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, Page 4
I apologize if I gave off the idea that people could prevent this by debating me or by posting brief alternate suggestions.
That said, I would certainly be taught a lesson if the top players who hate this released all their high exp pokemon in protest. Since I have claimed that exp rarely leaves the system.
If you still want to share how much you hate this, use https://www.delugerpg.net/viewtopic.php?t=27264
If you want to post alternate suggestions, use https://www.delugerpg.net/viewtopic.php?t=27260
(None of the posts were deleted for any rule violation. So you're allowed to make the same posts, you made in this thread before it was deleted, in the suggestions thread. You can find the text in the archived links above.)